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*** Trading Post Rules and Guidelines ***
« on: February 13, 2009, 07:10:53 pm »
Amarillo Gun Owners is happy to provide a place for it's users to buy, sell and trade their firearms and firearm accessories. But we have to cover our butts too.

AMARILLO GUN OWNERS IS NOT INVOLVED IN ANY TRANSACTION, and does not handle payments, guarantee transactions, provide escrow services, or offer "buyer protection" or "seller certification". All transactions are between the buyer and seller. We are NOT liable for any loss or damage as a part of using this forum. Trade at your own risk! Below are some rules that must be followed in order to participate in this forum, and some useful tips to keep yourself and everyone else safe and happy.

1. If you want to sell here, please participate here.

2. Make sure your user profile is up to date with your contact information and location.

3. Do not post for sale or solicit the sale of any drugs, pornography, or anything else illegal.

4. If you are listing an item for sale, include the item's location in your ad.

5. If you are here solely to promote or sell your non-firearm related commercial goods, please do not advertise them here.

6. Once your item has sold, please amend the topic to show that it's sold.

7. Post your ad in the appropriate forum.

8. No links to auctions. No links to ads placed on other sites.

9. NEVER GIVE OUT FINANCIAL INFORMATION (bank account number, social security number, eBay/PayPal info, etc.)

10. If you are, or ever have been, a convicted felon, or otherwise prohibited to own, sell or buy a firearm, you are also prohibited from using this section of this website. All transactions will be conducted in accordance with the law.

11. Auction type threads are currently not allowed on AGO without special permission from a staff member who can organize and supervise the entire auction.

Here are some basic guidelines to follow:

1. Know who you are dealing with. Face to face transactions are the best way to deal without any problems. It may be helpful to examine the post history of a user to see if they have contributed in a meaningful way to the other forums.

2. Communicate clearly. If you are the buyer, make sure that you know exactly what you are buying. If you are the seller, make sure you communicate exactly what you are selling. Most problems come up when users misunderstand something about the transaction.

3. The seller should always include an asking price in the ad. You can always ask for a higher amount and then take the best offer.

4. "Or Best offer" (OBO) is generally taken to mean best offer under the asking price. If an ad states a price along with "or best offer" ("OBO"), the price is considered to be the asking price that assures a sale and any offers lower than the asking price will be considered. Soliciting best offers over an asking price would effectively be an auction and not a classified ad. This is a classified advertising forum.

5. When the term "firm" accompanies a price, this means that the price is fixed and no lower offers will be considered at this time.

6. Use some common sense. People who feel comfortable sending money to someone they've never met for something they've never seen are bound to eventually receive a nasty surprise. That doesn't mean that you can't trade online. Just use some common sense precautions, like contacting the other party by phone and exchanging all the relevant contact information before proceeding with a transaction.

7. Be patient. There are few cons out there but the ones that exist online survive by moving the transaction along quickly. It is way better to miss out on a hot item at a good price than it is to lose money on a product that never arrives.

8. If something goes wrong, don't panic. Don't go public with a bunch of wild assertions. Use the contact information you got before the sale took place and put it to good use. Be friendly as you negotiate a resolution to the problem. If you put the other person on the defensive, your chance of working with that person drops to nearly zero.

9. Please do not "step" on other members' posts! If you feel you must comment in such a way that might negatively impact the sale of someone’s merchandise, please consider sending a PM instead of posting in the open forum.

Be suspicious of anyone who is vague, uses delay tactics, seems inconsistent, or who is trying to motivate you to close on a deal faster than a reasonable person would expect.

A sale will usually be made to the first person who says "I'll take it". However, how a transaction proceeds is really up to the seller. Keep that in mind. Sometimes, people get upset because a seller makes a deal with someone who doesn't appear to have provided the first response to the listing. The seller can sell to whoever he wants. He has to protect himself just like the buyer does, so it behooves him to sell the item to the person he trusts the most.

Likewise, some sellers get upset when a buyer backs out. The buyer might get cold feet because he decides the seller isn't trustworthy. Or it may be because he realizes that he can't spare the cash after all. It isn't unethical for the buyer to change his mind, even though it can be frustrating at times.

Keeping the above in mind, here are some guidelines on how a transaction can logically take place:

1. The seller lists the item, providing a price or asking for "best offer".

2. Several buyers respond.

3. The seller communicates to each of them exactly what they are buying and answers any questions they may have.

4. One or several buyers commits to the purchase.

5. At this point, the buyer and seller can make arrangements for a face to face transaction.

If the transaction is not going to occur face to face, the buyer sends payment by the seller's chosen means while the seller waits patiently for the payment. If the seller said he would accept a check (probably not a very good idea) then he should expect to wait at least a week. When the the seller receives payment in full (check must clear), he then can complete the transaction.

It would be nice if every transaction went smoothly, but in real life people make mistakes. Sometimes people are even out to cheat other people. It doesn't happen often, but it does happen. So you need to be on your guard.

Unfortunately, there isn't always much you can do when a transaction goes bad. So that means you need to be really careful about who you are dealing with. Never be afraid to back out of a deal if you start to feel like it isn't going to work out.

When something does go horribly wrong and you seem to be getting the short end of the stick, think constructively about what can be done to solve the problem. Focus on what you can do. Too many people get frustrated and angry way too quickly, destroying the possibility of reaching common ground.

Remember that the clearer you are in your communication with the other party the less likely it is that you will have a problem. And if you do have a problem, all that clear communication will come in handy.

Good luck!
« Last Edit: December 29, 2012, 11:13:36 am by Robbie »

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