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Re: The Texas Militia - Open Meeting
« Reply #50 on: January 12, 2012, 08:00:03 am »
I was actually kinda disappointed he didnt stick around...like yall stated earlier he coulda had some good insight on other topics & I really dont fault him for inviting others to his cause but I do believe some of the points made during his brief stay had juice to 'em & like u said Wildflower theres a stigma attached to the word 'militia' but I was a lill more intrigued not because of the stigma per se but since the oppertunity presented itself one could find out firsthand if the stigma n this case held any water...i myself was interested to knpw the civic duties it has/had been a part of since if u cant rally the ppl to ur cause & they see u as a 'threat' u may as well 'be' one n their eyes...

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Re: The Texas Militia - Open Meeting
« Reply #51 on: January 12, 2012, 08:16:24 am »
I believe that he just thought he had found a group of people that might be interested in something that he himself was extremely passionate about.  It's hard not to blurt out to those you perceive as friends, when you find something that excites you.

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Re: The Texas Militia - Open Meeting
« Reply #52 on: January 12, 2012, 08:49:22 am »
I believe that he just thought he had found a group of people that might be interested in something that he himself was extremely passionate about.  It's hard not to blurt out to those you perceive as friends, when you find something that excites you.
Can ya fault the guy? I mean he thought that surely a forum of local gun owners would be interested in such considering the state of our country & the subject content in the forum speaks volumes I personally just don't think he was prepared for the criticism he ultimately got fair or not...He prolly figured he'd get some sure (since everyone NEVER agrees on anything 100%) but I just don't think he was quite prepared for what he did get...

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Re: The Texas Militia - Open Meeting
« Reply #53 on: January 12, 2012, 06:20:03 pm »
He's the 2nd person to bring a "militia" to the forum. Neither one hung around long when they found out that most of us don't want to run in Camo and AR's pretending to GI Joe. Both folks also seemed to be here only to push their "militia" agenda and upping their membership instead of actually participating in our forum.

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Re: The Texas Militia - Open Meeting
« Reply #54 on: January 12, 2012, 07:48:53 pm »
He's the 2nd person to bring a "militia" to the forum. Neither one hung around long when they found out that most of us don't want to run in Camo and AR's pretending to GI Joe. Both folks also seemed to be here only to push their "militia" agenda and upping their membership instead of actually participating in our forum.
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Re: The Texas Militia - Open Meeting
« Reply #55 on: January 12, 2012, 09:59:00 pm »
I believe that he just thought he had found a group of people that might be interested in something that he himself was extremely passionate about.  It's hard not to blurt out to those you perceive as friends, when you find something that excites you.
Can ya fault the guy? I mean he thought that surely a forum of local gun owners would be interested in such considering the state of our country & the subject content in the forum speaks volumes I personally just don't think he was prepared for the criticism he ultimately got fair or not...He prolly figured he'd get some sure (since everyone NEVER agrees on anything 100%) but I just don't think he was quite prepared for what he did get...

I can totally understand about wanting to share with everyone you know something that you are passionate about; get me started talking about dogs and you will find that out pretty quick!  lol  I believe his heart was probably in the right place, I just think the approach was a bit off.  Also I don't think anyone here was rude about anything; most pointed out some valid points about the website and such but it is hard to convey good intention online.  Without the advantage of tone of voice and body language constructive criticism can easily be mistaken for judgement. IMHO
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Re: The Texas Militia - Open Meeting
« Reply #56 on: January 18, 2012, 07:09:36 pm »

One issue -- other than the complete abortion (1000 yard AK) created by Red Jacket, what AK47 fires .308? The site is posting incorrect information for the ammunition to the preferred weapon. Additionally -- if the group is going to prefer certain weapons, they should also know that not all AR weapons are chambered for 223 or 5.56 -- there is a difference, and it using ammunition in a firearm for which it was not designed present a dangerous safety situation.



Thats funny as I have a 308win chambered Saiga AK sitting right beside me at this very momment........ Maybe check your information before you assume others is incorrect.

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Re: The Texas Militia - Open Meeting
« Reply #57 on: January 18, 2012, 07:17:34 pm »

One issue -- other than the complete abortion (1000 yard AK) created by Red Jacket, what AK47 fires .308? The site is posting incorrect information for the ammunition to the preferred weapon. Additionally -- if the group is going to prefer certain weapons, they should also know that not all AR weapons are chambered for 223 or 5.56 -- there is a difference, and it using ammunition in a firearm for which it was not designed present a dangerous safety situation.



Thats funny as I have a 308win chambered Saiga AK sitting right beside me at this very momment........ Maybe check your information before you assume others is incorrect.


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Re: The Texas Militia - Open Meeting
« Reply #58 on: January 18, 2012, 07:22:52 pm »

One issue -- other than the complete abortion (1000 yard AK) created by Red Jacket, what AK47 fires .308? The site is posting incorrect information for the ammunition to the preferred weapon. Additionally -- if the group is going to prefer certain weapons, they should also know that not all AR weapons are chambered for 223 or 5.56 -- there is a difference, and it using ammunition in a firearm for which it was not designed present a dangerous safety situation.




Thats funny as I have a 308win chambered Saiga AK sitting right beside me at this very momment........ Maybe check your information before you assume others is incorrect.


Im sure there are AK's chambered in every caliber out there. Id like one in 762x54R.

http://punchingpaper.com/ak-47-in-7-62x54r/

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Re: The Texas Militia - Open Meeting
« Reply #59 on: January 18, 2012, 10:20:41 pm »
Hahaha....I was just remembering Bill Clinton.....
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You might call a Saiga an AK, but technically, it's not an AK....it's a Saiga. Most Saiga owners refer to them as ...well....their Saiga's. Yes, You can alter a Saiga to the same configuration as an AK, but the copy Uberti makes of the SA Colt is still an Uberti as well. Not a Colt.
So, I guess, for the sake of being a true firearms enthusiast, decipher the difference maybe.
Of the AR's I have, I only refer to 2 of them as M4's, because they are true Colt M4's. The others are variants. The other's are Charlie, Mabel, and Fred.  :lol:

Im sure there are AK's chambered in every caliber out there. Id like one in 762x54R.

[url]http://punchingpaper.com/ak-47-in-7-62x54r/[/url]


That's an interesting piece there Flb. Not having much experience with .308 or 7.62x54, how much difference is there in the two rounds? Wouldn't there be enough unburnt powder with a 16in barrel to throw off the curve?

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Re: The Texas Militia - Open Meeting
« Reply #60 on: January 19, 2012, 05:44:55 pm »
Im sure there are AK's chambered in every caliber out there. Id like one in 762x54R.

http://punchingpaper.com/ak-47-in-7-62x54r/


That's an interesting piece there Flb. Not having much experience with .308 or 7.62x54, how much difference is there in the two rounds? Wouldn't there be enough unburnt powder with a 16in barrel to throw off the curve?


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Re: The Texas Militia - Open Meeting
« Reply #61 on: January 21, 2012, 04:35:34 pm »

One issue -- other than the complete abortion (1000 yard AK) created by Red Jacket, what AK47 fires .308? The site is posting incorrect information for the ammunition to the preferred weapon. Additionally -- if the group is going to prefer certain weapons, they should also know that not all AR weapons are chambered for 223 or 5.56 -- there is a difference, and it using ammunition in a firearm for which it was not designed present a dangerous safety situation.



Thats funny as I have a 308win chambered Saiga AK sitting right beside me at this very momment........ Maybe check your information before you assume others is incorrect.

Thanks for dropping in your two cents long after the conversation is over.

The conversation was between me and the OP, and since the comments I made were specifically relating to the accuracy of the information provided on the site, and that information was accepted by the OP to be inaccurate as written.

« Last Edit: January 21, 2012, 04:51:25 pm by flb_78 »

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Re: The Texas Militia - Open Meeting
« Reply #62 on: April 23, 2012, 10:33:01 pm »
My main interest, as an honorable discharged veteran, of belonging to a militia as stated in the Texas Constitution is to help prevent the liberal left wingers telling me that the Constitution's second amendemnt applys only to militias.
Belonging only takes that out of their argument. I personally do not believe that was what was meant but if they stay in control watch out.
I have read enought of the writings of the founding fathers to know that they meant every citizen, mitilia or not.
Also, I don't believe that in the 1770's any rule existed about uniforms. Men with arms we ask to come to the aid of the cause and came they did. Some with no shoes.
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Re: The Texas Militia - Open Meeting
« Reply #63 on: April 23, 2012, 10:57:43 pm »
Well said rancher.   Interesting thought... 
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